5:7 - Poseidon vs. Odin (Mythology)

[UMPIRE]

SEASON 5, ROUND 7

Poseidon

Slot: The Team's Deity
Season Wins: 3
Season Losses: 0
Fantasy Team Page
Read more about Poseidon at Wikipedia
Official Site: Public Domain

Odin (Mythology)

Slot: The Team's Deity
Season Wins: 2
Season Losses: 0
Fantasy Team Page
Read more about Odin (Mythology) at Wikipedia
Official Site: Public Domain

Battle Terrain
Deities: Followers Battle

[Nate86]

So this is basically Vikings vs Greeks if I’m not mistaken. I’m not the best at cultural history or anything so I’m gonna hold off on this one until I’ve learned more.

[Peypeypeypey]

The vikings existed later and definitely have a technological and nautical advantage. However, I don't think they have the training or the infrastructure of the Greek empire to compete in land fights. It really depends on the scenario of the battle itself. All out war I would probably favor the Greeks in a long fight

[Nate86]

  On 11/18/2020 at 8:22 PM, Peypeypeypey said:

The vikings existed later and definitely have a technological and nautical advantage. However, I don't think they have the training or the infrastructure of the Greek empire to compete in land fights. It really depends on the scenario of the battle itself. All out war I would probably favor the Greeks in a long fight

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This is what I’m reading everywhere I look online as well.

[Peypeypeypey]

  On 11/18/2020 at 8:26 PM, Nate86 said:

This is what I’m reading everywhere I look online as well.

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This prompt specifically makes me want a "Historic Warrior" category where like Roman Centurians go up against Samurai and stuff, using just an average warrior with standard equipment.

[Bergy_Berg]

  On 11/18/2020 at 8:30 PM, Peypeypeypey said:

This prompt specifically makes me want a "Historic Warrior" category where like Roman Centurians go up against Samurai and stuff, using just an average warrior with standard equipment.

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That slot gets a little complicated, but also has a bunching up depending on what time period is allowed. Even if you restrict to non-gunpowder using warriors you just end up with knights in plate armor dominating every land battle.

[Peypeypeypey]

  On 11/18/2020 at 8:38 PM, Bergy_Berg said:

That slot gets a little complicated, but also has a bunching up depending on what time period is allowed. Even if you restrict to non-gunpowder using warriors you just end up with knights in plate armor dominating every land battle.

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Depends on the category though, right? Unarmored gladiatorial combat? Knight in plate lose their biggest advantage, and I would take the training of a Centurion or a Spartan over that of a knight in a 1 on 1 without any armor. 

EDIT: It's also really easy to restrict it to the year 1,000 AD, before the use of plate armor, to eliminate the domination of it

[Nate86]

  On 11/18/2020 at 8:30 PM, Peypeypeypey said:

This prompt specifically makes me want a "Historic Warrior" category where like Roman Centurians go up against Samurai and stuff, using just an average warrior with standard equipment.

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You should watch the show Deadliest Warrior if you haven’t already. They do matchups like that where they examine weapons, fighting styles, armor, and try to figure out what historic warrior would win in a fight.

[Fox]

  On 11/18/2020 at 8:38 PM, Bergy_Berg said:

That slot gets a little complicated, but also has a bunching up depending on what time period is allowed. Even if you restrict to non-gunpowder using warriors you just end up with knights in plate armor dominating every land battle.

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  On 11/18/2020 at 8:40 PM, Peypeypeypey said:

Depends on the category though, right? Unarmored gladiatorial combat? Knight in plate lose their biggest advantage, and I would take the training of a Centurion or a Spartan over that of a knight in a 1 on 1 without any armor. 

EDIT: It's also really easy to restrict it to the year 1,000 AD, before the use of plate armor, to eliminate the domination of it

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I think you could still go with early gunpowder units.  Say limit it to a team the size of a squad.

I think you end up with a classic Ninjas vs. Pirates.

[SSJRuss]

The conversation here does remind me of Deadliest Warrior. Maybe there was an episode that we could use for this battle...

I think I agree though, the Greeks have the Vikings outmatched in most ways.

[Bergy_Berg]

The Greek armies may have been better trained on land, but the Vikings were also deadly. Their equipment would be better, and the guidance of Odin is better than Poseidon. The Vikings should take it here.

[Peypeypeypey]

  On 11/19/2020 at 1:50 AM, Bergy_Berg said:

The Greek armies may have been better trained on land, but the Vikings were also deadly. Their equipment would be better, and the guidance of Odin is better than Poseidon. The Vikings should take it here.

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Even if their equipment is better, and even if each warrior is individually stronger, the Greeks are so much better organized and have such better training that it wouldn't really matter. I also didn't think the Gods were really involved here. It's just their followers battling. 

[Bergy_Berg]

  On 11/19/2020 at 1:53 AM, Peypeypeypey said:

Even if their equipment is better, and even if each warrior is individually stronger, the Greeks are so much better organized and have such better training that it wouldn't really matter. I also didn't think the Gods were really involved here. It's just their followers battling. 

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Ya know what, I'm realizing my deity is Greek, so I'm not gonna do any more arguing against Poseidon here.

[UMPIRE]

Match Final Results

Poseidon: 5
Odin (Mythology): 3