12:10 - Time Lords vs. Tyranids

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SEASON 12, ROUND 10

Time Lords

Slot: The Team's Planetary Invasion Force
Season Wins: 1
Season Losses: 0
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Read more about Time Lords at this Wiki
Official Site: BBC

Tyranids

Slot: The Team's Planetary Invasion Force
Season Wins: 1
Season Losses: 0
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Read more about Tyranids at this Wiki
Official Site: Games Workshop PLC

Battle Terrain
Alien Invasion: Fleet Battle

[Culwych1]

Sorry to repeat: The Time Lords are a multiversal level threat, and casually use time as their weapon along with black hole level arsenal. The Tyranids are going to be blasted back to the stone age by the millions of TARDISes coming their way.

More about the Time Lords here:  https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Lords

In one of the final battles of the Time War, a million Battle TARDISes faced 10 million Dalek ships (with a quintillion of Daleks) - a single Dalek ship has been shown to be able to blow up a planet, and both used time to reverse battles and kill/bring back millions. Its war on another level to what the Tyranids could hope to combat. 

[Peypeypeypey]

If the Time Lords are forced to actually fight it out, I feel like the Tyranids would have a chance to win, but Time Lords can kind of just yeet their way out of any fight here. Even if they had to stand and fight, I would throw my money behind Time Lords probably

[Culwych1]

18 minutes ago, Peypeypeypey said:

If the Time Lords are forced to actually fight it out, I feel like the Tyranids would have a chance to win, but Time Lords can kind of just yeet their way out of any fight here. Even if they had to stand and fight, I would throw my money behind Time Lords probably

If it was 1 v 1 on the ground, then probably physically there is a debate to be had. But fleet battle - the TARDISes are beasts so I don't think so. One thing they fire is (worst name ever) - Time Torpedos which effectively time lock their opponent, as well as their regular weaponry. 

[Pizzaguy2995]

8 hours ago, Culwych1 said:

Sorry to repeat: The Time Lords are a multiversal level threat, and casually use time as their weapon along with black hole level arsenal. The Tyranids are going to be blasted back to the stone age by the millions of TARDISes coming their way.

More about the Time Lords here:  https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Lords

In one of the final battles of the Time War, a million Battle TARDISes faced 10 million Dalek ships (with a quintillion of Daleks) - a single Dalek ship has been shown to be able to blow up a planet, and both used time to reverse battles and kill/bring back millions. Its war on another level to what the Tyranids could hope to combat. 

Do I need to remind you that the Tyranids have wiped out countless galaxies over the course of what must have been a millennia. There are considered one of the single greatest threats to the entire 40k universe, heck even beings like the Chaos Gods, who are even more powerful multiverse threats then the Time Lords, see the Tyranids as a threat to their power. If the Tyranids ever mastered time travel you’d better believe they’d be a multiverse threat too.

If the Time Lords tried to blast the Tyranids back to the Stone Age wouldn’t that be worst for them then the Tyranids? Isn’t it the job of time lords like Doctor Who to prevent time anomalies? And wouldn’t dropping a race of super predators like the Tyranids back in time where could wipe out an entire ecosystem of life that was supposed to exist for another million of years be a pretty huge anomaly that could potentially drop a huge time boon that would affect the entire history of the universe, including the Time Lords themselves? So unless the T.L.s want an alternative future where the Tyranids wiped out humanity and become the dominant race in the universe they should probably not try any time travel mumbo jumbo.

Also while brining back millions of troops at a time is impressive, if we’re using both sides at their strongest, then the Tyranids should already be starting with billions of not trillions of troops on hand already and their Norn-Queens can churn out millions in a short order too. The Tyranids ships are also very capable of destroying entire planets like most of Warhammer 40k factions so I don’t know how you consider planet busting to be another level.

The Tyranids will win this fight like they win every other battle they fought; overwhelming numbers and the ability to adapt and overcome anything their foes throw at them.

[Culwych1]

5 hours ago, Pizzaguy2995 said:

Do I need to remind you that the Tyranids have wiped out countless galaxies over the course of what must have been a millennia. There are considered one of the single greatest threats to the entire 40k universe, heck even beings like the Chaos Gods, who are even more powerful multiverse threats then the Time Lords, see the Tyranids as a threat to their power. If the Tyranids ever mastered time travel you’d better believe they’d be a multiverse threat too.

If the Time Lords tried to blast the Tyranids back to the Stone Age wouldn’t that be worst for them then the Tyranids? Isn’t it the job of time lords like Doctor Who to prevent time anomalies? And wouldn’t dropping a race of super predators like the Tyranids back in time where could wipe out an entire ecosystem of life that was supposed to exist for another million of years be a pretty huge anomaly that could potentially drop a huge time boon that would affect the entire history of the universe, including the Time Lords themselves? So unless the T.L.s want an alternative future where the Tyranids wiped out humanity and become the dominant race in the universe they should probably not try any time travel mumbo jumbo.

Also while brining back millions of troops at a time is impressive, if we’re using both sides at their strongest, then the Tyranids should already be starting with billions of not trillions of troops on hand already and their Norn-Queens can churn out millions in a short order too. The Tyranids ships are also very capable of destroying entire planets like most of Warhammer 40k factions so I don’t know how you consider planet busting to be another level.

The Tyranids will win this fight like they win every other battle they fought; overwhelming numbers and the ability to adapt and overcome anything their foes throw at them.

Whilst the likes of Dr Who try and prevent major changes to time, the Time Lords as a race messed with it constantly to suit their needs. They didn't like magic... so removed it from the physical plain. They've been changing time and the laws of physics and reality for millions of years, and have been shown to be able to travel between dimensions and universes.

If we are talking about an all out war, then they are going to use everything they have, and they been shown not to be above going back in time and erasing whole species. 

To destroy vast swathes of Daleks they detonated stars, and have weapons that can annihilate several billions of kilometres of space.

They have also locked species in other universes, using containment shells disguised as planets. This may well be the route they choose with the Tyranids; simply locking them away either in time or space.

The Tyranids are numerous, formidable and adaptable, but they've never faced a time travelling race like the Time Lords and a war like the Time War. 

[Pizzaguy2995]

On 12/11/2021 at 1:21 AM, Culwych1 said:

If we are talking about an all out war, then they are going to use everything they have, and they been shown not to be above going back in time and erasing whole species. 

To destroy vast swathes of Daleks they detonated stars, and have weapons that can annihilate several billions of kilometres of space.

They have also locked species in other universes, using containment shells disguised as planets. This may well be the route they choose with the Tyranids; simply locking them away either in time or space.

I think your Time Lords be surprised and frustrated at how efficient these giant insects are at surviving in a universe that wants them dead:

As a species they’ve had to endure supernovas, black holes, the intensely cold and maddeningly vast void between galaxies, and the wrath of the Chaos Gods. As long as one Norn-Queen survives then the species will reproduce and come back stronger then before. In particular their feat of successful traveling through the void, the empty areas of space so vast and dark that navigation and traverse should be nearly impossible, may make trying to contain or trap them on a planet more difficult then the Time Lords might expect.

Again they aren’t called the Great Devours for nothing, their mission is to kill and devour everything and anything in the galaxy and everyone in the 40k universe fear that there’s already too many of them to be stopped. Even the Chaos Gods worry that one day that the Tyranids will adapt to the point that even they can’t stop them

[Culwych1]

10 hours ago, Pizzaguy2995 said:

I think your Time Lords be surprised and frustrated at how efficient these giant insects are at surviving in a universe that wants them dead:

As a species they’ve had to endure supernovas, black holes, the intensely cold and maddeningly vast void between galaxies, and the wrath of the Chaos Gods. As long as one Norn-Queen survives then the species will reproduce and come back stronger then before. In particular their feat of successful traveling through the void, the empty areas of space so vast and dark that navigation and traverse should be nearly impossible, may make trying to contain or trap them on a planet more difficult then the Time Lords might expect.

Again they aren’t called the Great Devours for nothing, their mission is to kill and devour everything and anything in the galaxy and everyone in the 40k universe fear that there’s already too many of them to be stopped. Even the Chaos Gods worry that one day that the Tyranids will adapt to the point that even they can’t stop them

It is possible that one Tyranid could escape and they could come back stronger. It is possible that one day they could adapt at some point in the future.. But right here and now they are facing an enemy with technology that far outstrips their own and can devastate their actual evolutionary timeline. Numbers don't count for much if the enemy can move you to another timeline or dimension.

There is a reason that Tyranids are listed on vswiki as a Civilisation Type: Intergalactic, compared the Time Lords' Multiversal, Higher Dimensional.

 

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Match Final Results

Time Lords: 8
Tyranids: 2