13:18 - Amazo vs. Supreme Intelligence

[UMPIRE]

SEASON 13, ROUND 18

Amazo

Slot: The Team's Artificial Intelligence
Season Wins: 4
Season Losses: 0
Fantasy Team Page
Read more about Amazo at Wikipedia
Official Site: DC Comics

Supreme Intelligence

Slot: The Team's Artificial Intelligence
Season Wins: 3
Season Losses: 0
Fantasy Team Page
Read more about Supreme Intelligence at Wikipedia
Official Site: Marvel Comics

Battle Terrain
Team A.I. Challenge: CBUB

[Culwych1]

Amazo should have this I'm the bag, as he evolves whilst the SI is, if anything, inflexible. 

But, to confirm, here are some words from AI:

Amazo wins the creative writing contest by leveraging his unique ability to replicate and synthesize the talents and styles of the world's greatest writers. He combines the emotional depth, narrative complexity, and imaginative scope of various literary masters into a single, original work. This synthesis allows him to create a story that is not only technically proficient but also deeply original and resonant with readers. By adapting his approach to incorporate feedback and meet the audience's expectations, Amazo demonstrates that his adaptability and capacity for learning extend beyond physical combat to creative excellence, showcasing a novel form of creativity born from unparalleled mimicry and evolution.

[DSkillz]

Hmmm ... 

While Amazo is a great mimic of others' abilities, the Supreme Intelligence himself is already created from the greatest Kree minds of the past million years, which likely also includes their greatest creative minds as well as their scientific ones. Between the Kree's fairly recent evolutionary advances and their battles with various intergalactic empires and other entities (which Supremo would have encyclopedic knowledge of, especially since he himself jump-started their recent evolutions), the Supreme Intelligence would no doubt have a myriad of great stories to tell. 

[Culwych1]

4 hours ago, DSkillz said:

Hmmm ... 

While Amazo is a great mimic of others' abilities, the Supreme Intelligence himself is already created from the greatest Kree minds of the past million years, which likely also includes their greatest creative minds as well as their scientific ones. Between the Kree's fairly recent evolutionary advances and their battles with various intergalactic empires and other entities (which Supremo would have encyclopedic knowledge of, especially since he himself jump-started their recent evolutions), the Supreme Intelligence would no doubt have a myriad of great stories to tell. 

No doubt the Supreme Intelligence would have some good stories to tell - but mainly from a Kree point of view.

Amazo is a being who has wondered the breadth and length of space, and encounterd so many life forms (including ones that helped give him all his epic combined powers).

And don't forget that even on earth, he will have fought various battles with none other than the Justice League Unlimited -  a group comprised of all the major heroes in the world who regularly face amazing threats from across space and time. 

And a last addition - Amazo regularly hangs with Dr Fate himself. Now that is the ultimate source of stories and wonder. 

[DSkillz]

23 hours ago, Culwych1 said:

No doubt the Supreme Intelligence would have some good stories to tell - but mainly from a Kree point of view.

Amazo is a being who has wondered the breadth and length of space, and encounterd so many life forms (including ones that helped give him all his epic combined powers).

And don't forget that even on earth, he will have fought various battles with none other than the Justice League Unlimited -  a group comprised of all the major heroes in the world who regularly face amazing threats from across space and time. 

And a last addition - Amazo regularly hangs with Dr Fate himself. Now that is the ultimate source of stories and wonder. 

Thing is, as far as Amazo has traveled, in JL/JLU he's only existed for maybe three years and still has a lot to learn about the nuances of civilization. Meanwhile, the Kree have likely traveled to countless galaxies and had encounters with a myriad of different races, creatures, etc. over their millions of years of existence, and Supremo would no doubt have records of all this stored in his memory banks. He could likely use this stored info to write some good stories. 

[Culwych1]

5 hours ago, DSkillz said:

Thing is, as far as Amazo has traveled, in JL/JLU he's only existed for maybe three years and still has a lot to learn about the nuances of civilization. Meanwhile, the Kree have likely traveled to countless galaxies and had encounters with a myriad of different races, creatures, etc. over their millions of years of existence, and Supremo would no doubt have records of all this stored in his memory banks. He could likely use this stored info to write some good stories. 

He may have more contact and be older, but again we're looking at a personality that is evil and very rigid in its thinking - casually sending assassins out through the galaxy or trying to explode bombs that kill millions. 

That versus Amazo, a being with boundless curiosity and compassion who actively went to the furthest ends of space to find out about life. 

Amazo will imbue that wonder into his writing, bringing creativity and childlike amazement combined with the lived experience of countless beings into the scenarios.

[Pizzaguy2995]

I really love this scenario and honestly I’d pay big bucks to see Amazo or Supreme Intelligence write a CBUB match. I’d love to see what they’d come up with.

[DSkillz]

19 hours ago, Culwych1 said:

He may have more contact and be older, but again we're looking at a personality that is evil and very rigid in its thinking - casually sending assassins out through the galaxy or trying to explode bombs that kill millions. 

That versus Amazo, a being with boundless curiosity and compassion who actively went to the furthest ends of space to find out about life. 

Amazo will imbue that wonder into his writing, bringing creativity and childlike amazement combined with the lived experience of countless beings into the scenarios.

Amazo is also still largely naïve about life in general, and as such may not be so skilled at, say, writing compelling narratives or characters, or it may even lead him to write something a little overwrought. 

Supremo, though, has the greatest Kree minds uploaded to memory, which includes the likes of philosophers and likely writers with millions of years of knowledge and writing experience that would know how to avoid those writing pratfalls. 

[Culwych1]

23 minutes ago, DSkillz said:

Amazo is also still largely naïve about life in general, and as such may not be so skilled at, say, writing compelling narratives or characters, or it may even lead him to write something a little overwrought. 

Supremo, though, has the greatest Kree minds uploaded to memory, which includes the likes of philosophers and likely writers with millions of years of knowledge and writing experience that would know how to avoid those writing pratfalls. 

I'm going to have to disagree completely on that one. Looking purely at the personalities, the childlike wonder of Amazo should easily trump the eons of cynicism and evil that drives Supermo. This is literally a being that has murdered countless innocents, whether on purpose or accidentally and has a singular purpose. Knowledge does not equal the ability to write a good story...

[DSkillz]

21 hours ago, Culwych1 said:

I'm going to have to disagree completely on that one. Looking purely at the personalities, the childlike wonder of Amazo should easily trump the eons of cynicism and evil that drives Supermo. This is literally a being that has murdered countless innocents, whether on purpose or accidentally and has a singular purpose. Knowledge does not equal the ability to write a good story...

Knowing that he has to write a compelling story, Supremo wouldn't necessarily draw on just the evil deeds he's performed (though that in itself would help make a good story, too). Having been made from all the greatest Kree minds, he can also draw upon the empire's creative geniuses, who indeed would also have a myriad of great stories to tell and the means to craft them. 

[Culwych1]

10 minutes ago, DSkillz said:

Knowing that he has to write a compelling story, Supremo wouldn't necessarily draw on just the evil deeds he's performed (though that in itself would help make a good story, too). Having been made from all the greatest Kree minds, he can also draw upon the empire's creative geniuses, who indeed would also have a myriad of great stories to tell and the means to craft them. 

I guarantee that, given what Supremo is and his single minded and evil purpose, his story will be about the glory of Kree.

"And now the Kree beat the Avengers, and now they beat the Justice League, and then the entire DBZ universe. And then the Kree let off a million gamma bombs that wipe out all opposition to the glory of Kree! The End"

There'll be no nuances, no curiosity, no childlike wonder, or even any expectation that there is something out there that is better and more glorious that we have yet to find. And that is where Amazo will shine. A story for all ages, that helps us recapture our youth as well as explore the infinite amazing creations that make up the world around us. 

[DSkillz]

On 2/7/2024 at 1:09 AM, Culwych1 said:

I guarantee that, given what Supremo is and his single minded and evil purpose, his story will be about the glory of Kree.

There'll be no nuances, no curiosity, no childlike wonder, or even any expectation that there is something out there that is better and more glorious that we have yet to find. And that is where Amazo will shine. A story for all ages, that helps us recapture our youth as well as explore the infinite amazing creations that make up the world around us. 

To capture the reader's imagination (which is surely a big part of how Supremo's enthralled the Kree populace for millions of years) Supremo himself could play up the creativity and power the various civilizations and entities the Kree have gone up against, then show how creative the Kree themselves have been to battle and conquer them and how diverse they are as a people, even throwing in the exploits of beings of Kree heritage outside of their empire such as Mar-Vell and Carol Danvers as examples of their diversity.  

On 2/7/2024 at 1:09 AM, Culwych1 said:

"And now the Kree beat the Avengers, and now they beat the Justice League, and then the entire DBZ universe. And then the Kree let off a million gamma bombs that wipe out all opposition to the glory of Kree! The End"

You, know, that actually sounded pretty childlike in its own right.  

[Culwych1]

On 2/8/2024 at 8:18 AM, DSkillz said:

You, know, that actually sounded pretty childlike in its own right.  

😁 Oh absolutely, I'm not saying that Supremo couldn't both lack the childlike wonder and curiosity of Amazo and sound childlike at the same time. Actually am sure Supremo could do both.

[UMPIRE]

Match Final Results

Amazo: 10
Supreme Intelligence: 1