Match 21285 T-800 (The Terminator) vs. Jungle Hunter (Predator)

[Macklemore]

2029, somewhere on Yautja controlled Earth

Skynet has fallen. The Yautjas have taken over. Humans are no closer to reclaiming their former lives on planet Earth, they've merely pulled the drapes off of one enemy to reveal another underneath. Calling them 'enemies' is a generous understatement—it suggests they are equals, capable of turning the tide at any moment. Yet to them, humans were nothing more than ants, mere afterthoughts in a war waged across space and time between the synthetics and the Yautjas.

Yautja scientists are still holding Skynet on a closed network. Trying to cultivate it's knowledge so they can create the closest synthetics to replace humans for their hunts. They have given up on trying to cultivate humans like they did Xenomorphs. Humans were too unpredictable. They planned and were always rowdy. They did not have the hivemind mentality that allowed them to be easily subdued. As long as there was a one-eyed man in the valley of the blind, there was a chance for a revolt. I guess they've figured out a way to create these synthetics, since they are now going to be taking the last batch of humans that are alive to be hunted. I've heard stories about what they do, stories from humans that survived more than one hunt.

They have a strange, abnormal respect for us. We are kept in a large room furnished to resemble a mansion interior, or at least what one can only assume a mansion interior to be like. It's a large abode, where every human is allowed to do... whatever, really. It's a strange juxtaposition considering they treat us like animals that only exist to be hunted. Is this how cattle felt? We never truly gave them any hope—and at this moment, hope is the worst thing they could offer us.

It's exactly due to these reasons that I had to do something that no sane human being would ever think of doing. I, of course, treated it as an epiphany had struck me and drove me to do something no rational being would ever consider—I decided to send a Terminator back to the very first recorded Predator hunt. Had we halted the Yautja assault on Earth from the outset, perhaps we wouldn't have capitulated as extensively as we eventually did. We can only hope that the Terminator fulfills its purpose—terminating the very first Predator.

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1987, Guatemala

Lurking in the treetops, the elusive Jungle Hunter had started his hunt shortly after landing on Earth. Lingering from above like an all-seeing God, he was carefully examining a team of elite soldiers and how they dealt with lesser warriors. It was majestic. Brilliant. He couldn't wait to have his wrist blade taste their blood.

As this was happening, about 700 meters away, an explosion which signaled the arrival of a T-800 occured, which caused the Yautja to immediately divert his attention from the Major "Dutch" Schaefer's private military team. It wasn't just the Predator's attention that was caught, unfortunately.

"What the fuck was that," Poncho asked.

"Sounded like an explosion. Big one. Think it's another guerilla installment?" Blain continued, exuding pure confidence.

"Why would they be destroying their own installments?" Billy scoffed.

"Hiding the evidence,' replied Blain.

"Evidence, huh," Dutch said, turning his attention Dillon. "What exactly are you having us do here?"

"What needs to be DONE," Dillon angrily remarked, bringing his face closer to Dutch's. "I don't need you questioning my ethics, I just need you to follow my command. I don't know what they have stored up here, but we need to destroy these so we can stop a bigger war from happening. Is that clear?"

"I wish you would inform my men before you send us on these kinds of suicide missions, Dillon. If there is truly more of these kinds of installments," Dutch says as he waves his arms around the carnage which had unfolded around them, "death will come to us sooner than later. I'd appreciate it if you had let us know what we were getting into before throwing us blindfolded, Dillon. I expect at least that. Not as one soldier to another, but rather as friends who have been through some shit."

"Major, I think we should get moving. Head towards the explosion and see what's going on," says Mac as they all move toward the explosion.

As they head deeper into the jungle away from the outpost, they continue being followed by a extremely well hidden Predator who swiftly and carefully jumps from tree to tree. The explosion got his curiosity, but his attention was still firmly locked onto the group.

"Let's slow down a bit, the explosion came from around here," says Dillon, as he signals to the rest of the group to aim their guns toward the place of the explosion.

"I mean no harm," says a familiar voice.

Hawkins was incredulous. "Major, that, uh, that sounds like your voice. Do you think they are using some kind of playback to trick us?"

"No playback, there is a reason why I sound like your Major," said the Terminator as it walked out from behind the dense foliage of the Central American jungle to reveal a naked Dutch. The paramilitary group could not believe their eyes. "Please allow me to explain."

"You have 5 seconds to explain before I put a bullet between my eyes," said Dutch as he aimed his gun right at the facsimile's head.

"I am an exact copy of the only known survivor of the Val Verde incident. I was sent here to preserve what happened here historically, while also stopping what will happen in the future."

"The future? You expect us to believe this bull-crap you're feeding us," Blain mockingly said.

"Yes," the T-800's reply was swift and genuine.

"What is the Val Verde incident?" Dutch asked, his gun still aimed between the T-800's eyes.

"An encounter with an alien lifeform. One that most of you do not survive."

"Nothing can survive what we have in store here. We have brought enough weapons and ammo to light up a small town."

"And yet you failed to survive an encounter with the Yautja."

"I still don't see why I should believe you," said Hawkins.

In an effort to prove it's superiority, the T-800 slowly turned to face Hawkins. "I will have to show you then," he said, as he turned back to face the gun that Dutch had aimed at him. "Proceed with shooting me."

"Are you crazy," Dillon said, "Major you may not shoot him."

"I think I'll listen to myself, Dillon. I trust him more than I do you after this little fiasco you've put us in," Dutch said as he shot one bullet, which seemed to merely graze the Terminator, revealing a shiny grey undercoating beneath Dutch's skin.

"Incredible," said Billy. "You are not human, are you?"

"Correct," replied the Terminator. "I am much more," said the Terminator as it walked to a nearby tree and punched through its tree trunk. The Predator was seeing this amazing display of strength, and could only be fascinated by what was unfolding. It's interest was firmly locked onto the T-800 now, completely forgetting about the previous targets he had been interested in.

"I see. What is it that you need  from us, then?" Mac said.

"I will need the minigun, a shotgun, and a grenade launcher. And some clothes. You can request back up, while I deal with this alien creature. This display of you shooting me and me punching through this tree has undoubtedly led to this creature targeting me as a high priority target. If you do not hear from me after a while, know I have failed and you are next in line to be hunted. Good luck, soldiers."

"We'll come back better prepared, don't worry about that," said Dillon. "Good luck to you too, Major."

"I am not Major Dutch. I only look like him," replied the T-800 as it gathered the equipment it requested.

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Alright, let’s settle this once and for all. The classic cybernetic killer from The Terminator franchise is dropped into the Central American jungle—right in the middle of where the Jungle Hunter Predator (from Predator 1987) is operating.

Both are aware of each other's presence, but neither starts with exact knowledge of their opponent's abilities. The T-800 has the same mission directive as Dutch's team: eliminate an enemy force (which it will apply to the Predator). The Predator views the T-800 as a high-value trophy.

Conditions:

- T-800: Standard model as seen in Terminator 1, armed with an M134 Minigun, a Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun, and an M79 grenade launcher. No backup or Skynet assistance.
- Predator: Standard Jungle Hunter, equipped with plasma caster, wrist blades, cloaking device, smart disc, and medkit.
- Setting: Deep jungle, just like Predator 1987.
Win Conditions:
- The T-800 wins if it eliminates the Predator.
- The Predator wins if it successfully kills and claims the T-800 as a trophy.
- Morality Off: Both combatants are fighting as efficiently as possible.

[Callisto]

Learn More About
T-800 (The Terminator)
Read more about T-800 (The Terminator) at Wikipedia
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Jungle Hunter (Predator)
Read more about Jungle Hunter (Predator) at Wikipedia
Official Site: Twentieth Century Fox Links: Wikipedia Planet AVP Fox Movies

[RakaiThwei]

Officially back in the year 2000, Dark Horse published a crossover comic series, specifically Aliens vs Predator vs The Terminator-- and it featured a match up which was quite similar to this one except that it was set in the timeline of Alien Resurrection. In the comic, Ripley 8 has to team up with the Predators in order to stop the second uprising of Skynet-- but prior to that, we do get to see a match between a lone T-800 named ''Trollenberg'', who was experimenting with the Xenomorphs, and a Predator.

The result between the Predator and a T-800 is actually, and decisively very quick. The Predator easily dispatched the T-800 Trollenberg model with a shot from the plasma caster and decapitates the Terminator with it's Smart Disc.

If anything... I see the same thing happening here.

The Yautja are NOT jobbers as much as people want them to be.

[Pizza Guy]

On 2/24/2025 at 12:36 AM, RakaiThwei said:

Officially back in the year 2000, Dark Horse published a crossover comic series, specifically Aliens vs Predator vs The Terminator-- and it featured a match up which was quite similar to this one except that it was set in the timeline of Alien Resurrection. In the comic, Ripley 8 has to team up with the Predators in order to stop the second uprising of Skynet-- but prior to that, we do get to see a match between a lone T-800 named ''Trollenberg'', who was experimenting with the Xenomorphs, and a Predator.

The result between the Predator and a T-800 is actually, and decisively very quick. The Predator easily dispatched the T-800 Trollenberg model with a shot from the plasma caster and decapitates the Terminator with it's Smart Disc.

If anything... I see the same thing happening here.

The Yautja are NOT jobbers as much as people want them to be.

Well that was very anticlimactic. And to think the fans waited so many years to see that matchup.

[RakaiThwei]

55 minutes ago, Pizza Guy said:

Well that was very anticlimactic. And to think the fans waited so many years to see that matchup.

To be fair, the comic wasn't very good. And it's twenty five years old.

But even if you discount this very comic, the results would be the same. You average Yautja shoulder plasma caster is powerful enough to destroy a T-800 because they were vulnerable to plasma based weapons. This vulnerability to plasma is what prompted Skynet to create the T-850, a later assembly line that had a denser hyper alloy chasis designed to endure plasma shots. At least in the Terminator 3 timeline.

But this fight involves a T-800 and the vulnerability to the Predator's shoulder plasma caster is going to factor in it. So is the Smart Disc.

The Predator wins.

[JohnnyChany]

Great to see a match from you @Macklemore.  A good setup for these stalwarts.  From what I see and can find it looks like the Predator is the choice.

[DSkillz]

Good set-up and story, Macklemore. Sending a Terminator back to Dutch's time is something Skynet or a human that takes control of it might do to try to stop a major threat, but I don't know if the Yautja are the type to want to conquer planets. Also, the story switching tenses throughout. 

As for the match, yeah, it's true that a Predator's high-end weapons would likely make short work of a T-800, but I'm not so sure the Jungle Hunter would open up their fight with them. I think the Predator would more likely want to go toe-to-toe with the Terminator first, in which case they'd both knock each other around a bit before the Jungle Hunter breaks out his tougher gear to finish the job. 

The Jungle Hunter would win, but he'd be hurting for a bit afterward, so he might be wise to retreat to recover before Dutch and Co. return with reinforcements, etc. 

[Macklemore]

1 hour ago, DSkillz said:

but I don't know if the Yautja are the type to want to conquer planets.

They... are not. I was taking creative liberty with that one. Maybe Skynet REALLY caught their attention.

[RakaiThwei]

8 hours ago, Macklemore said:

They... are not. I was taking creative liberty with that one. Maybe Skynet REALLY caught their attention.

Unless of course you're taking cues from the unreleased cut of The Predator 2018...

But PHYUUUUUCK that movie..  both unreleased and theatrical cuts.

[Callisto]

Match Final Results

Member Ratings:
5.00 - Venom 2009
5.00 - Yazmal
4.80 - ThePhenomenalOne
4.50 - DSkillz
4.80 - JohnnyChany
4.50 - Pizza Guy

FPA Calculation:
6 Total Votes cast
28.60 Total Combined Score
28.60 / 6 = 4.77 Final Rating on the match

MATCH SCORE
T-800 (The Terminator): 3
Jungle Hunter (Predator): 5